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Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 17:30:00 - [1] haha, brilliant :) About time, too. 600DPS from 240km? NOT ANY MORE.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 17:33:00 - [2] Originally by: Zixxa Originally by: Eilie Edited by: Eilie on 24/10/2006 17:12:25 Good, torps arn't supposed to be better than cruise missiles. Thats why torps skill is rank4 and cruise is rank5. And yes, torps (like rockets and the new heavy assualt missiles) are supposed to be short range, while standard, heavy, and cruise missiles are the lower dmg but far range weapons! looks that you never saw quickfit. Open this beatiful prgram and look for fitting requirements for torpedoes and explain why torpedos require impossible for Raven PG and impossible even for Raven CPU being worse than cruise missiles? For what hell they exist at all? so? take out some of the stabs from your lowslots and use fitting modules fitting a full rack of torps is no problem for anyone but the most retarded raven pilot
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 17:37:00 - [3] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 24/10/2006 17:33:46 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Cry caldari, cry :) Looks like torp spec 5 will await bc 5 :P and bitter dog, it's not that easy to fit full rack of sieges either. About as easy as a full rack of Tachs, Neutrons, 425 II's, or any other comparable decent weapon.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 18:09:00 - [4] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Testy Mctest Leandro, at the minute these kill everything, even frigates to an extent, and certainly kill everything cruiser sized or bigger. They're basically cruise missiles with much more damage and an irrelevent drawback. They're overpowered, so they've been nerfed. They needed it. I know, because I fly with multiple Ravens everytime I play, and they annihilate anything they hit; it's wrong that a battleship class ship can shoot everything from small to large with one kind of ammo. Drones do that too, but at least they have range issues. I predict price of sieges II droping to 2 mil again... might be good for reprocessing... Rage have got a rather nice boost, so I'm not sure about that.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 18:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Tassi Rage got a boost? what?? Say goodbye to 1000m explosion radius... and hello to a 600m radius.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 18:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Tassi hmm thats quite a boost, dmg still the same? Its not, bit less, can't remember off hand. And range is reduced. But thats fine its a close range weapon. Its going to hurt battleships a lot if you have a target painter though.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 21:32:00 - [7] Originally by: GrumpyCat Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Zixxa Originally by: Gabriel Karade A Tank/Gank torpedo raven with T1 torps leaves a Blasterthron with T2 ammo (Void L) dead if the starting range is >15km. Even <15km it's too damn close considering the range that Raven can hit out to. You lie. Period. You have no idea what you are talking about little noob, run along now. Calling someone a noob when you're dieing to a torp raven in a megatron. So funny. Here's a hint fit MWD and heavy drones II. Actually, Gabriel is right.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 21:38:00 - [8] Edited by: Butter Dog on 24/10/2006 21:38:57 Originally by: Zixxa Are you idiot? Never seen rage trops in action? So expecially for you, noobie, CCP created good missile guide where explained how high speed of targets protect you(noobie-forever) from missiles. Because real life warfare is not for you. So you will have to use a web like every other close range T2 ammo? And?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.25 10:05:00 - [9] Edited by: Butter Dog on 25/10/2006 10:06:04 Originally by: Zixxa Originally by: Gabriel Karade Most smart Raven pilots carry a mix of damage types seen as they loose no DPS for using Explosive over for example EM. Yea - But 10 sec for reload. - difficult to guess how BS is tanked. FYI, in real duel encounter blaster Mega > torp Raven. As anyone who has fought torp ravens regularly in a Blasterthron will tell you, THAT IS NOT TRUE. A well setup Raven can tank the DPS of a blasterthron long enough to break the blasterthrons own tank. Its actually nearly always a close-run thing. If you have been losing Ravens to Blasterthrons regularly you need to go to fitting school. In my own 1v1's with Torp Ravens, if they are well setup and using explosive torps on my EANM II/DC based tank, I nearly always lose if the fight starts at over 15km. Which nearly ALL solo fights do unless you have a covert ops alt. Plus when you MWD over to them, you will ALWAYS overshoot slightly and you are getting zero DPS with your blasters while he is hitting you for MAX DAMAGE from the very start. Honestly, get a clue.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.25 10:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio In the above fight though, if you were really engaged by that raven at 15km. You could mwd away from it and warp away. So the raven can tank/gank the mega. The mega gets to choose if it fights or not. The inherant disadvantage of caldari is if you setup to pwn other things solo, you have almost no way to hold them down in reality. Yeah, the Raven isnt a great solo PvP ship. Thats true. But its the KING of solo PvE, which the mega absolutely sucks at. Its called balance. No ship should be the King of All Things in EVE.

Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.25 10:23:00 - [11] Originally by: Zixxa Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio In the above fight though, if you were really engaged by that raven at 15km. You could mwd away from it and warp away. So the raven can tank/gank the mega. The mega gets to choose if it fights or not. The inherant disadvantage of caldari is if you setup to pwn other things solo, you have almost no way to hold them down in reality. Yeah, the Raven isnt a great solo PvP ship. Thats true. Wow, you have to agree? I do not believe. Also Raven is bull** in fleet battles. Quote:** But its the KING of solo PvE, which the mega absolutely sucks at. Who cares about PvE? Mission runners in empire? And I know few other kings of PvE, including Dominix, command ships, HACs, etc. Well 100% of the playerbase PvE's at some point. And the Raven is the perfect ship for it, hell even I trained 3 weeks to use a Raven for PvE and it does better than my Mega which I have been training for over a year. The Raven is amazing ship in small gangs. It will always have a place in PvP. But Javelins were ridiculous and needed a change. Bascially, stop talking, because you are embaressing yourself.

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